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Post by Corporal Levi on Jan 12, 2014 12:45:37 GMT -5
But, since your Pokemon's powers seem to be more or less on par with Palkia's (since they're both fully able to manipulate space and such), you couldn't say it has more Special Attack than Palkia, could you?
Regarding Alakazam's IQ, look what humanity has accomplished with our limited IQ; now, imagine what Alakazam would be capable of doing.
Deoxys-A would probably be able to destroy half a galaxy with its bare tentacles, and would probably have a decent amount of control over both time and space.
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Post by Akatsukistudios9 on Jan 12, 2014 12:53:03 GMT -5
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Post by Akatsukistudios9 on Jan 12, 2014 12:57:21 GMT -5
But, since your Pokemon's powers seem to be more or less on par with Palkia's (since they're both fully able to manipulate space and such), you couldn't say it has more Special Attack than Palkia, could you? Regarding Alakazam's IQ, look what humanity has accomplished with our limited IQ; now, imagine what Alakazam would be capable of doing. Deoxys-A would probably be able to destroy half a galaxy with its bare tentacles, and would probably have a decent amount of control over both time and space. i cant say it has more power than palkia, no. but i just hate the fact how palkia is limited in power. Alakazam would've found a cure for cancer already. but why is the only thing it can say its name and if its so smart why doesn't realize its under control of a trainer (and dat trainer might be a douche o3o) only to fight and rebel? xD That would be interesting to see. |
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Post by Akatsukistudios9 on Jan 12, 2014 13:01:33 GMT -5
what? based on look alone maybe some, i mean i didnt make this a fellow spriter did  and yes that is sprite, and it is much better then gamefreaks sprites. Wolf not unless they are on a god tier, like the sprite shown above, sprites cannot bend space and time (this is based of my knowledge of my sprites and others i know, there is probably someone out there who has made an extremely OP sprite) also with that argument, what about Final fantasy sprites or digimon sprites, or any other sort of sprites that aren't pokemon sprites? are they bound to this battle style to just because "they're a sprite" I'm looking forward to the day when spriters break away from nintendo's battle style rules, i mean we already have started with free style battling. Does it matter if we tweak nintendo's idea to make it better so that we can climb the ladder of power to make incredible beings? i like nintendo's idea but it does have its flaw like limiting arceus, a "god", to the same rules as a magikarp. Sprites, unless mentioned otherwise, are individuals, unlike i dunno say mareep where their are an infinite number of them theres only one of that one sprite in existence so why can't it grow in power to break the wall nintendo has put up. Wolf i get what your saying. i truly do. i just don't agree with it, while your basing it off pokemon logic, which i can respect, im basing mine more off a tactical fighting mindset which would allow these things. Is it so wrong for me to think like that? again i get what you guys are saying; compared to pokemon they are OP...extremely OP, and yes one day we probably will reach a point where there will be more than +6 for stats, but hey why not? it might be fun to see (even though series wise taking multiple turns to raise stats is usually a crap idea) Do you get what i'm saying? Just think about it. I am not against you and spriters to be different and have their own style, but of course this means if you can't follow pokemon rules and you cannot compare yourself to real pokemon in the idea that you are superior in a form as you do not operate in the same universe/rules. Final fantasy characters are from their own sepparate world which operates under different rules, so if they are to be in a pokemon world their stats would also change to fit the same rules, think as if we were to take arceus into the spriter's world we would need to double Arceus's base stats and give him attacks with 500 power and rise each stat for every turn >_<. I am just slightly annoyed by the belief you have"we share a belief that spriters and sprites are in a tier higher than anything pokemon has." As for art style, the first pokemon games (gen 1-3) were bound by the capabilities of the gaming systems they were in. The 4th and 5th gen were a slight fail as other games demonstrated they could run 3d graphics in RPG games(Such as Golden sun Dark Dawn) maybe then you could say you were slightly superior in the art part, but now gen 6 has changed the sprites into 3d models. Not to mention Gamefreak company has(had?) it's own made graphic dessigning/editing program, attempt to make a sprite with only designing/graphic editing programs made by yourself(No paint, photoshop, gimp, CorelDraw). Does this series take place in the pokemon world? i was under impression this series was to take place in a persons sprite world. Also i'd love to attempt that challenge if i had the program (if you could find me a link that'd be awesome) |
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Post by Wolf Prince on Jan 12, 2014 13:05:49 GMT -5
My argument is only to prove how wrong the belief
is.
And i said Make your own graphic editing program instead of using ones that you have not made yourself.
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Post by Akatsukistudios9 on Jan 12, 2014 13:08:54 GMT -5
My argument is only to prove how wrong the belief is. And i said Make your own graphic editing program instead of using ones that you have not made yourself. I change that statement slightly, in our sprite worlds that statement is true, if it were to be in a pokemon world then yes i'd be on the same tier as darkrai. If i find money lying around at KFC i'll make that program but untill then, cant do shit like that without money :/ |
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Post by Wolf Prince on Jan 12, 2014 13:28:11 GMT -5
Well as long as you don't mean that you are superior to gamefreak/nintendo and pokemon i'll just stop discussing.
And if you are good at programming you don't need money to make it, just a computer and skills.
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Post by Akatsukistudios9 on Jan 12, 2014 13:32:37 GMT -5
Well as long as you don't mean that you are superior to gamefreak/nintendo and pokemon i'll just stop discussing. And if you are good at programming you don't need money to make it, just a computer and skills. xD suck at programming |
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Post by Draconaitr25 on Jan 12, 2014 13:56:04 GMT -5
Ok, looking at WolfPrince logic, made me realise how overpowered I am. So to be fair I let Aquablast or any other Administrator/Member/Admin change base powers, ability, attacks slightly. For example change my ability to only once per battle and change the recovery move to 3/4 if in sunlight otherwise 1/4 or 1/2. How about that?
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Post by Corporal Levi on Jan 12, 2014 14:29:21 GMT -5
But, since your Pokemon's powers seem to be more or less on par with Palkia's (since they're both fully able to manipulate space and such), you couldn't say it has more Special Attack than Palkia, could you? Regarding Alakazam's IQ, look what humanity has accomplished with our limited IQ; now, imagine what Alakazam would be capable of doing. Deoxys-A would probably be able to destroy half a galaxy with its bare tentacles, and would probably have a decent amount of control over both time and space. i cant say it has more power than palkia, no. but i just hate the fact how palkia is limited in power. Alakazam would've found a cure for cancer already. but why is the only thing it can say its name and if its so smart why doesn't realize its under control of a trainer (and dat trainer might be a douche o3o) only to fight and rebel? xD That would be interesting to see. The thing is, Alakazam doesn't only say its name. Canon-wise, humans name Pokemon after the sounds they make, so to other Alakazam it's a diverse and effective language, but we silly humans don't understand, and just name Alakazam after what we hear. Also, have you noticed that Alakazams never seem to suffer from cancer? It also probably does realize it's under the control of a trainer, but why would it feel the need to rebel? It probably knows half the secrets of the universe already. |
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Post by Akatsukistudios9 on Jan 12, 2014 15:05:22 GMT -5
i cant say it has more power than palkia, no. but i just hate the fact how palkia is limited in power. Alakazam would've found a cure for cancer already. but why is the only thing it can say its name and if its so smart why doesn't realize its under control of a trainer (and dat trainer might be a douche o3o) only to fight and rebel? xD That would be interesting to see. The thing is, Alakazam doesn't only say its name. Canon-wise, humans name Pokemon after the sounds they make, so to other Alakazam it's a diverse and effective language, but we silly humans don't understand, and just name Alakazam after what we hear. Also, have you noticed that Alakazams never seem to suffer from cancer? It also probably does realize it's under the control of a trainer, but why would it feel the need to rebel? It probably knows half the secrets of the universe already. at most a human can memorize 7 langauages at one time, in rare cases even more. if alakazam is smart enough it should be able to recognize that humans can't understand it and learn its trainers language. why would it need to rebel you ask. well why should it exist to fight for sport of its trainer. and to my knowledge there is no cancer in the pokemon world so your argument of alakazams not having cancers is empty and without meaning. but what if we were to introduce cancer cells to the pokemon world? |
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Post by Wolf Prince on Jan 12, 2014 15:42:14 GMT -5
Well i know i said i wouldn't keep on this talk but i juts have to defend facts.
Think of it this way AS9, us humans are able to talk the way we do because of the structure of our vocal cords which only a few animals can imitate(Being certain birds the only ones such as parrots). Now pokemon certainly do understand our language as how they follow our commands(Use flamethrower, psychic, etc.) but they cannot answer back in our language because their vocal cords make it impossible for them to imitate our language.
And even more this simple pokedex entry:
This entry from Emerald/Sapphire makes it clear that Alakazam's evolution line is higher than us humans.
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Post by Corporal Levi on Jan 12, 2014 16:04:56 GMT -5
The thing is, Alakazam doesn't only say its name. Canon-wise, humans name Pokemon after the sounds they make, so to other Alakazam it's a diverse and effective language, but we silly humans don't understand, and just name Alakazam after what we hear. Also, have you noticed that Alakazams never seem to suffer from cancer? It also probably does realize it's under the control of a trainer, but why would it feel the need to rebel? It probably knows half the secrets of the universe already. at most a human can memorize 7 langauages at one time, in rare cases even more. if alakazam is smart enough it should be able to recognize that humans can't understand it and learn its trainers language. why would it need to rebel you ask. well why should it exist to fight for sport of its trainer. and to my knowledge there is no cancer in the pokemon world so your argument of alakazams not having cancers is empty and without meaning. but what if we were to introduce cancer cells to the pokemon world? My point about cancer was to refute your argument for why Alakazam hadn't cured cancer, but as it is you've proven your own argument moot. Regarding everything else, Alakazam is purported to be so much more intelligent than we are that there would certainly be actions on their part that we would not be able to understand simply because they would be blatantly smarter than we are. |
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Post by Aquablast on Jan 12, 2014 16:15:10 GMT -5
Guys please stop this fight. Here is my option, sprites and spriter could be stronger than normal Pokemon but however they should not be massive overpowered. If I feel a sprite/spriter is overpowered then I am going to adjust the move so it is not massive overpowered.
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Post by Corporal Levi on Jan 12, 2014 16:21:54 GMT -5
But Aqua, it's not a fight. This is a civil discussion with valid arguments on both ends. I don't see the problem here.
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