zerocielX
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Post by zerocielX on Dec 26, 2012 19:49:15 GMT -5
Two more Pokemon have been suspected in the OU tier. And to no one's surprise they are two potent Rain Sweepers: Keldeo and Tornadus-T.
I find it weird that Keldeo is being suspected, since it's coverage is pretty subpar, but I guess its Rain boosted Hydro Pumps can pretty much destroy anything without Water Absorb/Dry Skin.
Tornadus-T, on the other hand, is pretty self-explanatory. Near perfect coverage with Hurricane and Focus Blast/Superpower, and with Hidden Power Ice, Thundurus and Zapdos are no longer viable counters. Decent bulk and Regenerator means that it can recover from Life Orb recoil and Rocks damage, making that much more difficult to take down.
What are your thoughts/predictions? Will both Pokemon get kicked to Ubers, or will they stay in OU for another round?
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Post by TheHunterDag on Dec 26, 2012 20:52:35 GMT -5
Keldeo is definitely not uber material. It's as you said, "subpar." It's walled quite nicely by common wall Jellicent and it's pretty predictable.
Tornadus -T seems more likely to be an uber candidate. But I think he's manageable in OU. He's not really THAT bulky that he's hard to deal with. But I understand the concern.
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Post by Stormy Dog Show on Dec 26, 2012 22:52:39 GMT -5
I don't think either of them deserve to be ubers. I never used Keldeo the right way but I never got sweeped by one. Tornadous is fine in OU since it can easily be countered by Thundurus. Thundurus is underrated because no one includes Hidden Power Ice with it which lets it take out an opponents Thundurus. Its only problem is Landorus though.
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Post by zerocielX on Dec 26, 2012 23:08:05 GMT -5
I don't think either of them deserve to be ubers. I never used Keldeo the right way but I never got sweeped by one. Tornadous is fine in OU since it can easily be countered by Thundurus. Thundurus is underrated because no one includes Hidden Power Ice with it which lets it take out an opponents Thundurus. Its only problem is Landorus though. Actually, Hidden Power Ice is standard for any Thundurus set, for the pseudo-BoltBeam coverage. And I don't think Thundurus-T is a great counter to Tornadus-T, since it will still take massive damage from a LO Hurricane, specially with Rocks on the field. Thundurus-T can only revenge kill Tornadus-T at best.
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Post by TheHunterDag on Dec 26, 2012 23:08:29 GMT -5
with Hidden Power Ice, Thundurus and Zapdos are no longer viable counters. Landorus is even less of a problem with it's x4 Ice weakness. Tornadus-T outspeeds Thundurus-T, so Thundurus-T can't stop him. That easily. If you say that no one runs HP Ice on Thundurus-T, then you've been playing against a lot of bad people. Not saying that everyone follows it, but EVERY recommended moveset for Thundurus-T on Smogon has HP Ice in it.
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Post by Wolf Prince on Dec 30, 2012 21:28:49 GMT -5
Well i believe even though Tornadus is very good pokemon with regenerator giving his lost hp from stealth rock and allowing pro use of life orb, but it doesn't desserve to be in ubbers. Why? Simple it's low defenses, perhaps people struggle to defeat it but with an ice shard is almost enough to destroy it not to mention any other scarfed with a super effective move(Terrakion's stone edge, THundurus's Thunder,etc.) is enough to take it down. While keldeo WHAT IS WRONG WITH PEOPLE?!?! Keldeo might be good but please sending him ubbers? why not just make butterfree OU and wurmple ubber. Keldeo has a powerful move under rain, but he doesn't get as much coverage of other water types like starmie(Thunder, ice beam, psyshock). Mostly keldeo gets walled by water absorb pokemons, hidden power grass might be good but it doesn't get stab or give enough damage. My opinion: Tornadus and Keldeo should stay OU
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