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Post by Aquablast on Jul 20, 2014 8:30:48 GMT -5
I am curious who do you think is the strongest Uber Pokemon.
I personality feel Kyogre is really good in Uber, and I would imagine Primal Kyogre would be even a bigger threat.
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Post by zerocielX on Jul 20, 2014 8:53:02 GMT -5
I would say Extreme Killer Arceus. But that's with a Swords Dance under its belt.
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Post by Wolf Prince on Jul 20, 2014 12:09:20 GMT -5
Xerneas geomancy? i mean with power herb it is double quiver dance,and with a few defense and hp it could even live the popular priority moves. I'm a just sit back cause i haven't played ubers since gen 5.
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Post by Draconaitr25 on Jul 20, 2014 12:28:49 GMT -5
Unless playing against legendarys or other Ubers. I rarely use them, so I can only think about Xerneas with Geomancy or Arceus(choice Spec) w/ Judgement,Ice beam, thunderbolt,(Any other move).
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Post by soulred12 on Jul 20, 2014 12:32:56 GMT -5
After laddering in Ubers for a while a couple weeks ago, my experience is that Kyogre and Xerneas are the most powerful. E-Killer is also very strong, but very susceptible to ghosts (especially Giratina) and burns. Kyogre on the other hand can go modest and don a scarf and simply click Water Spout over and over again and it's basically guaranteed to maul anything not named Palkia or Ferrothorn (not everything is OHKOd, but everything is mauled so nothing really wants to switch in). Xerneas sweeps at least 90-95% of the meta after a power herb Geomancy thanks to all its coverage options.
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Post by zerocielX on Jul 20, 2014 17:41:22 GMT -5
Some interesting calcs here
Kyogre vs Blissey 252+ SpA Choice Specs Kyogre Water Spout (150 BP) vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Blissey in Rain: 517-609 (72.4 - 85.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery
Reshiram (in the Sun) vs Blissey 252+ SpA Choice Specs Turboblaze Reshiram Blue Flare vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Blissey in Sun: 448-528 (62.7 - 73.9%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery
Xerneas vs Blissey +2 252+ SpA Fairy Aura Xerneas Moonblast vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Blissey: 352-415 (49.2 - 58.1%) -- 63.7% chance to 2HKO after Leftovers recovery
+2 252+ SpA Xerneas Focus Blast vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Blissey: 444-524 (62.1 - 73.3%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery
Arceus vs Giratina +2 252+ Atk Life Orb Arceus Shadow Force vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Giratina: 447-528 (88.6 - 104.7%) -- guaranteed OHKO after Stealth Rock
I guess its clear who really is the strongest just based on its damage output. And that Arceus calc is just to show why I prefer to run Shadow Force over Shadow Claw on the Extreme Killer set. (OHKOS GIRATINA AFTER ROCKS WTF?!)
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Post by Rychu725 on Jul 23, 2014 2:00:56 GMT -5
I think Arceus by far
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