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Post by Aquablast on Dec 14, 2013 11:39:03 GMT -5
I personality feel cloning Pokemon using a glitch isn't cheating, because it is a glitch in the game where you can clone your Pokemon.
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Post by Steelgrassify on Dec 14, 2013 12:12:02 GMT -5
Eh, I'm pretty neutral about it. On one hand you can't create an entire new pokemon, it's just an exact replica of a Pokemon you've already obtained. Yet, you can take it a little far and clone shiny pokemon (which anybody over GTS would go crazy for with a reasonable offer) and items such as Metal Coat or Master Ball, which are hard to get items. I still haven't had up my mind, but I wouldn't be surprised if Pokemon patched it like they did with the Shiny ID checker.
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Post by Corporal Levi on Dec 14, 2013 12:30:23 GMT -5
From a competitive standpoint, this would be fine, as long as the Pokemon being cloned is legal, and shinies aren't worth quite as much this generation due to how easily they can be obtained, so I feel as if cloning isn't a huge deal. However, I don't quite understand Aquablast's reasoning...
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Post by blazape on Dec 14, 2013 12:45:57 GMT -5
From a competitive standpoint, this would be fine, as long as the Pokemon being cloned is legal, and shinies aren't worth quite as much this generation due to how easily they can be obtained, so I feel as if cloning isn't a huge deal. However, I don't quite understand Aquablast's reasoning... I must disagree with you levi because you must think of it from multiple sides of competitive. There is the battling which this is fine, However there is also breeding competitively. If you think about it there s one huge benofit and huge cheating factor from this. You can breed competivily and create backups for everything, However this is easy enough to do anyway by breeding multipe of everything at a time. Then there is also what me and steel are doing by giving away things we breed. THis would allow people to go in and distribute tons of things that took no effert as they cheated in several extra, and they would be able to get almost anything that they wanted for them as it is something that has a real use and value.
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Post by Corporal Levi on Dec 14, 2013 12:56:07 GMT -5
I've personally never heard of breeding competitions or anything of that sort, but I guess that's a fair point. My post was referring to competitive battling, where you don't really need back ups due to species clause.
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Post by zerocielX on Dec 14, 2013 13:18:41 GMT -5
I guess it could be considered cheating, if you are using it to clone extremely rare items like Leftovers or Metal Coats, since you are basically using a shortcut to farm them (and using shortcuts is frowned upon by society). But, personally, I really don't mind or care. Its a flaw in the game, nothing more.
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Post by Aquablast on Dec 14, 2013 13:19:19 GMT -5
From a competitive standpoint, this would be fine, as long as the Pokemon being cloned is legal, and shinies aren't worth quite as much this generation due to how easily they can be obtained, so I feel as if cloning isn't a huge deal. However, I don't quite understand Aquablast's reasoning... My reasoning is if it is a in-game glitch I don't think it cheating since the game allows you to do it. But I guess different have different opinions.
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Post by blazape on Dec 14, 2013 13:34:09 GMT -5
From a competitive standpoint, this would be fine, as long as the Pokemon being cloned is legal, and shinies aren't worth quite as much this generation due to how easily they can be obtained, so I feel as if cloning isn't a huge deal. However, I don't quite understand Aquablast's reasoning... My reasoning is if it is a in-game glitch I don't think it cheating since the game allows you to do it. But I guess different have different opinions. but as you are saying yourself it is a glitch which means it wasn't designed to be in the game in the first place so the game makers didn't want you to do it. Your reasoning doesn't make sense as you are saying it is in game so you are therefore saying it is ok, But then you saying that it is a glitch in the same sentance.
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Post by Wolf Prince on Dec 14, 2013 15:27:32 GMT -5
My reasoning is if it is a in-game glitch I don't think it cheating since the game allows you to do it. But I guess different have different opinions. but as you are saying yourself it is a glitch which means it wasn't designed to be in the game in the first place so the game makers didn't want you to do it. Your reasoning doesn't make sense as you are saying it is in game so you are therefore saying it is ok, But then you saying that it is a glitch in the same sentance. If it's a glitch it also means it's an error in the programming, so it is as if the programmer's lack of testing or attention is some areas led to this. As it wasn't ment to be there it was their mistake that made it. I don't care much seeing as how eventually there will be an update to fix this. In some pokemon communities i was in years ago used to even use AR to clone pokemon and found them legit as long as they didn't modify the pokemon's IVs and such.
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Post by blazape on Dec 14, 2013 16:07:01 GMT -5
but as you are saying yourself it is a glitch which means it wasn't designed to be in the game in the first place so the game makers didn't want you to do it. Your reasoning doesn't make sense as you are saying it is in game so you are therefore saying it is ok, But then you saying that it is a glitch in the same sentance. If it's a glitch it also means it's an error in the programming, so it is as if the programmer's lack of testing or attention is some areas led to this. As it wasn't ment to be there it was their mistake that made it. I don't care much seeing as how eventually there will be an update to fix this. In some pokemon communities i was in years ago used to even use AR to clone pokemon and found them legit as long as they didn't modify the pokemon's IVs and such. However it isn't the programers falt as there will ALWAYS be bugs in a system and for a game as big as pokemon if they were to find every single bug in the system then it would take a year, and still there are going to be people who are playing specifically for bugs and will always be on the lookout for them. And also about the updates they are desined to fix bugs yes but there is always a chance that they will create more of them.
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Post by soulred12 on Jan 30, 2014 15:35:59 GMT -5
I can appreciate the time-saving aspect to hacking/cloning pokemon with legit stats, but the possibility makes playing the game legitimately feel less fun and rewarding. You feel less proud of your legitimately-found shinies, both because they're not as rare anymore (because e.g. someone cloned their shiny over and over and mass-distributed them on wonder-trade) and because people are more likely to not believe that your stuff is legit because so many people are just hacking/cloning. Half the fun of finding rare stuff was the bragging rights that came with it, lol
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Post by Skarm on Apr 8, 2014 21:42:53 GMT -5
I myself happen to have this problem, with my Y copy, cause it doesn't save I can trade with people as much as I want and I won't lose anything. Now, I think it isn't cheating because you didn't want it to happen, you didn't do it on purpose. And because i'm an competitive player I see this problem as a gift by gods, allowing you to get more items and help out other people. I also don't care as long as its legal.
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