digremlin
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Post by digremlin on Jan 10, 2015 6:24:53 GMT -5
So this is a new team and we all know how bad i am at team building so as always, I'd like some advice. Oh, and it has 8 immunities.
Slowking @ Assault Vest Ability: Regenerator EVs: 252 HP / 4 SpA / 252 SpD Sassy Nature - Scald - Psyshock - Ice Beam - Dragon Tail Takes special hits for days. Switch out for regen. Sell souls to devil. Dragon tail for greedy sweepers and rock damage to stuff like Beedrill
Forretress @ Leftovers Ability: Sturdy EVs: 252 HP / 4 Atk / 252 Def Relaxed Nature IVs: 0 Spe - Stealth Rock - Toxic - Rapid Spin - Gyro Ball Takes physical hits for days. Set up rocks. Posion their drinks. Get rid of hazards. Gyro Ball one shots Beedrill.
Flygon @ Choice Band Ability: Levitate EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe Jolly Nature - Outrage - Earthquake - U-turn - Rock Slide Extreme power. Kill things.
Toxicroak @ Black Sludge Ability: Dry Skin EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 SpD Adamant Nature - Swords Dance - Drain Punch - Poison Jab - Sucker Punch Set up and get the broom. Fairly bulky with decent health regen thanks to black sludge and drain punch. Priority Sucker Punch with SD's kills things.
Chandelure @ Choice Scarf Ability: Flash Fire EVs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe Timid Nature - Fire Blast - Shadow Ball - Energy Ball - Psychic My old pal Chandy. Fast and powerful.
Porygon-Z @ Life Orb Ability: Adaptability EVs: 76 HP / 252 SpA / 180 Spe Modest Nature - Tri Attack - Thunderbolt - Dark Pulse - Agility Tri Attack is ridiculously strong. Speed EV's set to outspeed practically anything in the tier with an Agility (except scarfed Crobat but that doesn't exist... yet #NewMeta). Late game clean up sweeps.
So that's the team. What do you guys think?
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Draconaitr25
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Post by Draconaitr25 on Jan 10, 2015 18:34:56 GMT -5
Starting off with Slowking. Your opponent will eventually understand that Slowking is sp. Defensive, in that case having psyshock is a stake because he might switch to an attacker and outspeed with full power or play the same game of using psyshock. Either way I'll leave it up to you to think whether psyshock or psychic. In Forretress. The moveset is great though my judgement comes personally. I would not recommend having toxic on forretress unless your opponent is using a wall as well. I would only reccomend toxic to a pokemon that can stall (meaning that has toxic + recover/slack off/other) In this case, I'll switch to explosion or toxic spikes. Continuing to Toxicroak. I suggest changing his ability to anticipation. Immunity to water is good but with Mega-Charizard not following the meta, it is a thread. If that is not the case because the team is UU (as seen in the title) then I stupid replace Porygon-Z's item for scarf (Personal Opinion)
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Post by digremlin on Jan 10, 2015 18:37:24 GMT -5
Well, personally i prefer psychic as it's stronger but a special tank such as goodra or florges would completely wall my slowking if i couldn't hit their more frail defensive side.
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Post by Draconaitr25 on Jan 10, 2015 18:54:41 GMT -5
Well, personally i prefer psychic as it's stronger but a special tank such as goodra or florges would completely wall my slowking if i couldn't hit their more frail defensive side. Sorry updated it because of an error
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Post by digremlin on Jan 10, 2015 19:00:53 GMT -5
I think toxic spikes could definitely work out well so i'll give that a go for forretress. With toxicroak, what's the advantage of anticipation? Is it just no fire weakness for croak? Because with 2 resistances and an immunity it's not too much of a problem.
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Post by Draconaitr25 on Jan 10, 2015 19:10:04 GMT -5
True about the immunity. I forgot about that. IDK random thought.
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Post by digremlin on Jan 10, 2015 19:13:11 GMT -5
With regards to porygon-z, i do like the agility set but the problem is life orb recoil. ditching the set up for a scarf wouldn't be bad but as my main other special user is scarfed that feels like it won't work. can you think of a better item for the agility set or should i scrap it?
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Post by zerocielX on Jan 11, 2015 2:45:43 GMT -5
The only thing I would like to point out is to give Slowking Max SpAtk with a Modest nature. The Assault Vest makes up for the lack of investment, and turns Slowking into a powerful tank given its high SpAtk and diverse movepool. (imo investing in SpDEf with AV seems kind of redundant, so you should take advantage the item grants and place those 252 EVs elsewhere)
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Post by Draconaitr25 on Jan 11, 2015 10:07:19 GMT -5
With regards to porygon-z, i do like the agility set but the problem is life orb recoil. ditching the set up for a scarf wouldn't be bad but as my main other special user is scarfed that feels like it won't work. can you think of a better item for the agility set or should i scrap it? Ah F***. My internet broke and lost the reply T_T well summary: You can change it to a nasty plot sweeper. With Timid, EV's in speed and Sp.Attack, silk scarf and nasty plot. 2HKO to Mega-Ampharos leading the possibilities to set up or kill directly (Damage calculation in Smogon). This way you can have a swift Porygon-Z able to outspeed many but hurt little. Tri-Attack with the combo of Silk Scarf and Adaptability will take unsuspecting foes (Plus, it is already to powerful). When you have the chance you can set up nasty plot against types-disadvantages or annihilate everything. If you disagree, you can always scrap it into a Porygon-2 with Eviolite. Hope this helps.
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Post by digremlin on Jan 11, 2015 16:37:53 GMT -5
Thanks, i'll give that a go!
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Post by Draconaitr25 on Jan 12, 2015 16:40:35 GMT -5
Thanks, i'll give that a go! Any luck?
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Post by digremlin on Jan 13, 2015 2:55:16 GMT -5
Well toxic spikes forretress has some things better than toxic but for posioning pokemon who've just switched in and are setting up, i prefer toxic personally. With Porygon-Z, the silk scarf works really well to stop myself from dying as before, the life orb recoil had killed me half way through sweeping so thanks a lot for that. And with Slowking, i don't know if i prefer extra bulk or extra fire power. I'm still testing thst out.
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