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Post by Kizaru on Oct 17, 2013 13:01:30 GMT -5
Is Ace on par with an admiral? He didn't fare too well against Akainu, from what I remember. Marco, on the other hand, was able to withstand Akainu's punch fairly easily. Also, in what order would the supernovas be in? From what I understand, Killer, Bonney and Zoro would probably be the weakest due to the fact that Killer and Zoro lack devil fruit abilities, with Killer only being able to tie with Urouge even before Urouge has transformed. Bonney's devil fruit ability, although potent, is probably somewhat less effective in a world where 7 year old Luffy can punch as hard as a pistol. Luffy, Kid, and Apoo all seem to be very powerful in their own right; Apoo in particular seemed to be the only one who genuinely injured Borsalino, although this was through a surprise attack and he was promptly massacred upon being discovered, and his bounty was and still is lower than Luffy's or Kid's. However, especially after the time-skip, they would probably all lose badly to Law. Urouge would probably lose to all four because it doesn't look like he has much other than raw strength and durability, but this would probably be enough to overcome Basil, who doesn't even have superhuman endurance once his supply of dolls has been exhausted, which shouldn't be too difficult considering how his dolls can only take as much punishment as a normal human. X Drake es the best, numero uno, dinosaur es always win, never lose I have no idea about Bege. If Ace was actually fully healed and not under the effects of the Kairoseki, then he would have been able to put up a better fight. He was pretty much even when he went against Aokiji but of course when he went against Akainu he had ulterior motives. To be honest the order of their strength is not know. The only method we know is through their bounties and some bounties are higher due to unethical methods. The only reason Eustass had a higher bounty than Luffy (since Luffy attacked WG area's) was because Eustasss Kidd killed civilians in his trip. Killer helped kill the civilians too and that's why he has a high bounty. Jewelry Bonney changes them to babies, so not even Luffy as a baby can fight her. Not sure if it works on Logia fruits. She also seems to be very important knowing lots of people from Akainu to Blackbeard. Uroge can injure a Pacifista so his strength is something to acknowledge. Basil, Apoo and Eustass have all appeared in the New World and are ready to make their move. We will be able to see their real strength soon enough. Nobody knows about Bege xD The latest chapter showed something about X Drake so he might not be that great
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Post by Corporal Levi on Oct 17, 2013 21:06:26 GMT -5
Is Ace on par with an admiral? He didn't fare too well against Akainu, from what I remember. Marco, on the other hand, was able to withstand Akainu's punch fairly easily. Also, in what order would the supernovas be in? From what I understand, Killer, Bonney and Zoro would probably be the weakest due to the fact that Killer and Zoro lack devil fruit abilities, with Killer only being able to tie with Urouge even before Urouge has transformed. Bonney's devil fruit ability, although potent, is probably somewhat less effective in a world where 7 year old Luffy can punch as hard as a pistol. Luffy, Kid, and Apoo all seem to be very powerful in their own right; Apoo in particular seemed to be the only one who genuinely injured Borsalino, although this was through a surprise attack and he was promptly massacred upon being discovered, and his bounty was and still is lower than Luffy's or Kid's. However, especially after the time-skip, they would probably all lose badly to Law. Urouge would probably lose to all four because it doesn't look like he has much other than raw strength and durability, but this would probably be enough to overcome Basil, who doesn't even have superhuman endurance once his supply of dolls has been exhausted, which shouldn't be too difficult considering how his dolls can only take as much punishment as a normal human. X Drake es the best, numero uno, dinosaur es always win, never lose I have no idea about Bege. If Ace was actually fully healed and not under the effects of the Kairoseki, then he would have been able to put up a better fight. He was pretty much even when he went against Aokiji but of course when he went against Akainu he had ulterior motives. To be honest the order of their strength is not know. The only method we know is through their bounties and some bounties are higher due to unethical methods. The only reason Eustass had a higher bounty than Luffy (since Luffy attacked WG area's) was because Eustasss Kidd killed civilians in his trip. Killer helped kill the civilians too and that's why he has a high bounty. Jewelry Bonney changes them to babies, so not even Luffy as a baby can fight her. Not sure if it works on Logia fruits. She also seems to be very important knowing lots of people from Akainu to Blackbeard. Uroge can injure a Pacifista so his strength is something to acknowledge. Basil, Apoo and Eustass have all appeared in the New World and are ready to make their move. We will be able to see their real strength soon enough. Nobody knows about Bege xD The latest chapter showed something about X Drake so he might not be that great but X Drake cant posibly be anytign but the best hes a dinosar Ace fought Jinbe for five days, while Akainu nearly knocked Jinbe out in one punch, so I think Ace is much weaker than Akainu at the very least. I guess the strength of some of the supernovas isn't clear yet (but we do know that X Drake is without doubt the strongest of them all). What does the latest chapter show of X Drake? Also, didn't Luffy OHKO a Pacifista after the timeskip? So we know that Shanks and Mihawk are around same strong, and Mihawk and Vista are around same strong, with Vista being ranked lower than Marco as a member of the Whitebeard Pirates. Who do you think would win in a fight between Shanks and Marco?
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Post by Kizaru on Oct 18, 2013 8:27:12 GMT -5
If Ace was actually fully healed and not under the effects of the Kairoseki, then he would have been able to put up a better fight. He was pretty much even when he went against Aokiji but of course when he went against Akainu he had ulterior motives. To be honest the order of their strength is not know. The only method we know is through their bounties and some bounties are higher due to unethical methods. The only reason Eustass had a higher bounty than Luffy (since Luffy attacked WG area's) was because Eustasss Kidd killed civilians in his trip. Killer helped kill the civilians too and that's why he has a high bounty. Jewelry Bonney changes them to babies, so not even Luffy as a baby can fight her. Not sure if it works on Logia fruits. She also seems to be very important knowing lots of people from Akainu to Blackbeard. Uroge can injure a Pacifista so his strength is something to acknowledge. Basil, Apoo and Eustass have all appeared in the New World and are ready to make their move. We will be able to see their real strength soon enough. Nobody knows about Bege xD The latest chapter showed something about X Drake so he might not be that great but X Drake cant posibly be anytign but the best hes a dinosar Ace fought Jinbe for five days, while Akainu nearly knocked Jinbe out in one punch, so I think Ace is much weaker than Akainu at the very least. I guess the strength of some of the supernovas isn't clear yet (but we do know that X Drake is without doubt the strongest of them all). What does the latest chapter show of X Drake? Also, didn't Luffy OHKO a Pacifista after the timeskip? So we know that Shanks and Mihawk are around same strong, and Mihawk and Vista are around same strong, with Vista being ranked lower than Marco as a member of the Whitebeard Pirates. Who do you think would win in a fight between Shanks and Marco? Well Akainu > Ace is indeed a fact since Magma > Fire. (SUUURE ;P) It shows him helping someone he was going against in the past, which means he lost to him. Well, yeh, I thought we were talking about Before Timeskip powers? After time skip Law, Luffy, Zoro, Eustass, Apoo and Basil can each take on a Pacifista easily. Not sure about their full power since they haven't been shown fighting. To this date I am not sure what to say about Mihawk and Shanks fighting. The only thing I can assume is it was purely sword skill and not including Haki. Shanks was able to knock out a lot of WB pirates and take a hit from WB. I think he wins for sure. Especially since it's Haki vs Logia-ish power. Oda said that Shanks has strong enough haki to knock out 100,000 Fishmen easily~
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Post by Corporal Levi on Nov 4, 2013 22:33:22 GMT -5
I am attempting to turn Whitebeard into a Pokemon.
Looking at similarly shaped humanoid Pokemon, Machamp has base 90 HP, Conkeldurr has base 105 HP, Throh has base 120 HP, and Hariyama has base 144 HP. 90-144
Whitebeard is shown to be able to split continents with ease. Tyranitar, which crushes mountains for fun, has base 134 attack, while volcanoes erupt and mass chaos ensues every time Groudon, who has base 150 attack, goes for a jog. 134-150
Whitebeard is shown to be more or less impervious to physical harm, which sounds like Cloyster territory. From what I understand, the main cause of his death was his sickness. 180
Whitebeard is capable of almost instantly solidifying and then shattering air, meaning he has a ridiculous amount of control over the atmosphere. This sounds like Rayquaza, who has base 150 special attack. 150
I do not know how to judge special defense.
Whitebeard is able to catch light. That's pretty fast. 300
Most muscular humanoids are Fighting type. Whitebeard also needs STAB on Earthquake, of course. Fighting/Ground
Intimidate/Sheer Force/Huge Power/Pure Power/Parental Bond/Reckless/Guts/Anger Point/Analytic/Anticipation/Wonder Guard/Unburden/Telepathy/Sturdy/Steadfast/Skill Link/Pressure/Own Tempo/Justified/Forewarn/Bulletproof
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Post by Kizaru on Nov 5, 2013 13:52:52 GMT -5
I am attempting to turn Whitebeard into a Pokemon. Looking at similarly shaped humanoid Pokemon, Machamp has base 90 HP, Conkeldurr has base 105 HP, Throh has base 120 HP, and Hariyama has base 144 HP. 90-144 Whitebeard is shown to be able to split continents with ease. Tyranitar, which crushes mountains for fun, has base 134 attack, while volcanoes erupt and mass chaos ensues every time Groudon, who has base 150 attack, goes for a jog. 134-150 Whitebeard is shown to be more or less impervious to physical harm, which sounds like Cloyster territory. From what I understand, the main cause of his death was his sickness. 180 Whitebeard is capable of almost instantly solidifying and then shattering air, meaning he has a ridiculous amount of control over the atmosphere. This sounds like Rayquaza, who has base 150 special attack. 150 I do not know how to judge special defense. Whitebeard is able to catch light. That's pretty fast. 300 Most muscular humanoids are Fighting type. Whitebeard also needs STAB on Earthquake, of course. Fighting/Ground Intimidate/Sheer Force/Huge Power/Pure Power/Parental Bond/Reckless/Guts/Anger Point/Analytic/Anticipation/Wonder Guard/Unburden/Telepathy/Sturdy/Steadfast/Skill Link/Pressure/Own Tempo/Justified/Forewarn/Bulletproof Sounds about right Tho... the reason he died was not just disease ~ Throughout the Battle of Marineford alone Whitebeard had received 267 sword wounds, 152 gunshot wounds and 46 wounds from cannonballs — adding up to a total of 465 injuries upon his time of death. Despite this, there was not a single scar on Whitebeard's back showing cowardice. Aside from sword to the heart, old age, magma to the heart and blown off face that is "Even in death, his body still stands"
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Post by zerocielX on Nov 17, 2013 23:32:55 GMT -5
Episode 86 always makes me cry :[
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Post by Kizaru on Nov 18, 2013 15:53:39 GMT -5
Episode 86 always makes me cry :[ You're watching One Piece? How far are you into it? :3
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Post by zerocielX on Nov 18, 2013 16:03:13 GMT -5
I'm up to episode 90 right now, since I decided to watch it from the beginning again :3
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Post by Kizaru on Nov 19, 2013 15:05:38 GMT -5
I'm up to episode 90 right now, since I decided to watch it from the beginning again :3 Yay! That's the best way to do it. :3
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